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Thursday, August 23, 2007

Rafa's Rant


"Jose said he wouldn't be talking about Liverpool this season - maybe his memory is not so good".

This is the kind of comment we're used to hearing from Rafa Benitez, and it's as close as he normally comes to controversy. Barbed, but understated - he gets his point across without coming off as a rabid madman infuriated by (usually) Mourinho's comments. It has appeared, for four years, that Benitez is a quiet, laid-back student of the game, a hard man to rile. It's hard to imagine him throwing tea cups around a dressing room, or giving any player the Alex Ferguson hairdryer treatment. This, lets not forget, is the man who sat cross-legged, Buddha like, whilst watching penalties in the Champions League semi-final against his greatest managerial rival. Cucumbers envy his cool.

This week however, Rafa has well and truly "chucked a mental". Totally and utterly lost it. Maybe it's his new beard, and he's totally f**ked off with being called "Max" every day in training. Maybe Mrs Benitez isn't putting out this season, because of his newly spiky face. Maybe his fantasy football team is as s**t as mine, cos Dean Ashton can't get a f**king game. Whatever the reasons, Rafa has clearly had some steam building, and the Heinze ruling this week has been the catalyst for one almighty venting.

In what will surely come as a shock to all of you reading, I have to say I agree with pretty much everything he said, although I'm certainly surprised at the extent to which it's upset him. I'll deal with his points one by one, because as funny as it was hearing him go off on one, he raised some pretty valid questions.

Firstly, the Heinze ruling itself. I'm certain there's only a fraction of the information on this one that has made it into the public domain, nobody knows what the f**k has been going on there. I don't believe for one minute that Liverpool FC and it's numerous lawyers took the matter this far purely on the basis of a bit of paper nowhere near as legally binding as Heinze's actual contract. This has indeed been a murky matter, hence the need for an arbitration panel rather than a statement of "don't be so bloody stupid, he's Man United's player". European contract law comes into things, as do certain quotes (which haven't been made public) attributed to Man Utd's Chief Exec, in conversation with Heinze's agent. What we do know though (and even Alex Ferguson pointed this much out) is that Liverpool thought they had a watertight case, or the whole thing wouldn't have happened. Benitez is clearly frustrated with what he feels is an unjust decision.

What REALLY p**sed Benitez off though, was the implications coming out of Old Trafford that Liverpool were involved in tapping up Heinze. From a club that is well known for sending out replica shirts to transfer targets with their name on the back, (Paul Ince, Mexes, Hargreaves) accusations of transfer irregularities seem rich. These accusations were apparently levelled again at the tribunal, presumably with the aim of bringing Liverpool to book for the supposed infringements. Reading back over the quotes Benitez made about the affair prior to the tribunal, it's hard to back these claims up.

If that was all Benitez had got angry about, not many would have been surprised. However, he's clearly decided the men in charge of English football are a complete bunch of f**kwits, and decided to let loose on a range of issues. Between now and the end of the season, Liverpool are already scheduled to play FOUR early Saturday kickoffs following International fixtures. By anyone's reckoning that seems excessive, and Benitez has rightly pointed out that Liverpool were the Premiership side most involved in early morning kickoffs last season, following both International and European fixtures. When your key players (or whole squad) have just travelled half the length of Europe, the last thing you want is to have to play at noon on a saturday, especially when all your rivals have convenient 4pm Sunday kickoffs. Now I'm not suggesting there's a hidden fixture agenda at the Premier League, and neither is Benitez. All he's saying (and rightly) is that someone should have probably noticed and amended this discrepancy. For it to happen over a whole season is an oversight. For it to happen over two is downright incompetent.

Next he turned his attention to the Rob Styles debate, still raging from Sunday. In the bearded one's opinion, (that's Rafa, not me) it's not referees who should carry most of the blame in situations like the one at Anfield. That's an area where I disagreed, until I heard what came next. I still think Styles is a useless c**t, who should never referee in this country again, but Rafa rightly pointed out some mitigating circumstances. Firstly, Florent Malouda wants hauling by the balls over the embers of a Newquay hotel, so blatant and disgusting was his dive that conned the ref. He didn't just fall over, he fell INTO a player in order that there'd be contact. He really tried to back up his theatrics, and is clearly a pro in the art of being a cheating t**t.

Secondly, Styles perhaps felt he owed Chelsea, so incredulously did they surround him every time he gave a decision Liverpool's way. The (clearly organised) protests of the Chelsea players must have had Styles thinking he'd dropped more than one clanger in Liverpool's favour. Watching on TV, from time to time even I thought Chelsea had been hard done by on occasion, so vehement were the denials. Except we had the benefit of replays, where we could see they were just being a bunch of cheating cockney b******s. Benitez' point, basically, is that referees are human. If you've got eleven guys deliberately trying to con them, by going to ground whenever possible and by debating every possible decision in order to undermine their self-belief, then they ARE going to make mistakes. He even suggested that certain clubs (Chelsea) target certain referees (Styles) as they know they're more prone to folding under the pressure. This is clearly a disgraceful and disgusting state of affairs, especially from the most expensively assembled group of players in English football history, who shouldn't have to resort to such tactics.

I always loved the understated, studious Rafa. And I must be honest, when I first heard his rant I was slightly amused, but also slightly alarmed, thinking back to the cracking-up Kevin Keegan's "I'd love it" monologue. It wasn't until I'd read his quotes through a couple of times and gone away and thought about it that I realised two things - A) pretty much everything he said was true, and B) it's about time somebody in the game said it. And you can say what you like, but a mild-mannered slightly shy performance in a press conference doesn't get your comments noticed half as much as a balls-out mentalist rant.

I still think he's sick of being likened to Peter Kay, and if he's got Ashton in his fantasy team that'll be p**sing him off just as much as it is me, but I also think he was 100% justified in not only saying what he did, but in how he said it. More of the same please Rafa, it's time we told the whingers, the divers, the tappers-up and the authorities exactly what we think of their antics. They've all got away with it for too long.

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

right first things first rafa is max
and ive had my fair share of being called max too and mike ashley! ill tell u 1 thing ashley wishes he looks as good as me and i wish i had his money the c*nt.
rafa well and truly lost it didnt he!
i agree in principle with some things and the chelsea thing really annoyed him and styles is shit simple as
malouda dived and mourinho is blind but so is rafa and this is where i disagree with rafa- nothing has been said about stevie gerrards punch on a feyenoord player in pre season and that was disgraceful and rafa has distanced himself from that but he must be blind to not even see it on tv, i think gerrard is great but i lost a bit of respect when he did that he revealed the "proper scouser" side of him which i didnt like.

the heinze thing has annoyed me too- fair enough rafa has a point in saying we didnt tap him up but its up to man utd not to sell him to their main rivals- its like newcastle selling owen or shearer to sunderland newcastle would never allow it so i think liverpool are being a bit silly and were chasing a loose end there ,he was never going to anfield! i tell u what wud be funny though is if madrid sold him to liverpool next season!
also ashton is pissing me off that he isnt getting a game and i hope he does soon!
the early kick off thing is a part of football now but liverpool seem to have got the short straw but newcastle have had 1 3pm k off in 3 games and this weekend we are on sunday at 1.30 and i think next week we may have our first home 3pm kick off so other clubs are just the same and the whole of the premiership have to accept its a part of the game now

Rich Prince said...

With the whole Heinze thing...do you think Liverpool would have been so daft as to take it to a tribunal if they really thought he was Man United's player, simple as that? There seems to have been a belief (backed up by club lawyers) that Heinze's legal rights were being prohibited. I mean obviously Newcastle would never have sold Shearer to Sunderland, but if he had a minimum fee release clause, they'd have had to! Liverpool's lawyers felt the letter, and discussions between Heinze's agent and Man U amounted to a release clause, and so by both FIFA and EU law, Liverpool felt Man Utd HAD to let him go. In truth, I think Benitez is as angry with the lawyers that told him this as he is with the Premier League - either he's been misled, or there has been an unlawful ruling.

I also think you're being a *tad* harsh on Rafa with regards to the Gerrard slap in pre-season. He did mention it in post-match interviews, saying something along the lines of "nobody likes to see these things. The referee had lost control of the game, and in these situations players can become frustrated. It is not the kind of thing we are encouraging".

Now you can say what you like about Rafa, but you can't tell me he encourages his team to be agressive, to cheat, or to harass referees. And there are managers in the Premiership who do exactly that. Also, how many Premiership managers actually DO come out and criticise their captain for not getting a yellow card? Would Jose? No, he'd have said "It was an outragous dive by the Feyenoord player". Ferguson defended Ronaldo for a headbutt! And Wenger would not have seen the incident. Managers just don't come out in public and criticise their own players for incidents like that, but he'd have been annoyed in the dressing room, especially if Stevie had been sent off. It was a stupid and risky thing to do, and I've no doubt Rafa told him so.

Anonymous said...

wheres ur weekly winners and losers??
uve got to have mido the paedo on there the wanker!

Anonymous said...

Andy S said....

mido's, got a bomb, mido's, mido's got a bomb! nananana! lmao! wrong but funny.

also funny but not wrong, sunderland losing last night, lmao!

then back to wrong but funny, kieron dyer.
"oh, i'm not happy, i get paid 70,000 a week to sit on a treatment table and screw my way around the best night life in the country. i want 80,000! wa wa wa!"

at least he's got a good reason to be on the treatment table now, mite have to screw with them on top for awhile (again, the poor bugger)

Rich Prince said...

The winners and losers section will be updated tomorrow (Thursday) following the rest of the Carling Cup games and European qualifiers. I wasn't going to jinx Liverpool or Arsenal by saying they'd had a good week and then watch them get knocked out of Europe.

But it's safe to say Derby and Sunderland will be in the losers section for this week.

As will DISGUSTING black & white racists with their chants that I in no way condone or find amusing in the slightest.

Surely it should have been BIG FAT Mido's got a bomb? Shoddy work lads.

Anonymous said...

well i was hoping that someone would bring this up cos ive been waiting for my rant on this!
right where to start....
the whole thing has pissed me right off
mido is an arse simple- the newcastle fans have been calling the smoggies paedos for years and mido took offence to some things that were said so someone in the newcastle end used their brain and realised mido rhymes with paedo so they used that then mido scored and decided to show how annoyed he was and "shush" us and stick his fingers uo at them on numerous occasions that the tv cameras conveniantly missed but were seen on nufc.com and other sites.
so the nufc fans were pissed off but fair enough they can get their own back on him the only way they can by singing about him. granted it may have gone a bit too far but i cant imagine too many nufc fans realising mido was actually islamic and they prob didnt doubt that he actually had a bomb or was actually gunna blow!
the fact that southgate and the media have come out and condemned us shows what wankers they are. and the racism thing and faith thing has been used as a scapegoat.has any1 said owt about mido sticking his fingers up? no!
i hope the fa look in to the blatant "racism" showing by the smoggie fans a mark viduka, " ur just a fat aussie bastard" isnt that racist to australians? there is a point of where what happens and what is said in the stands stays there and the fact that newcastle fans are being condemned is a joke as every week fans all over the country have their own way of abusing the opposition and its the way to wind up the players so that ur team can win. its not like we are standing in the stands dressed up in fake bombs and shit.
and its not like we are like some fans in europe abusing players of race and other faith every game it was just that mido deserved what was said but not to the extent of that. but now that hes had a whinge about it i hope every teams fans in the country wind him up luike that so altogether now......"MIDO IS A PAEDO!"

Rich Prince said...

To be fair though, there are ways of winding players up, and then there is going too far. Mido is an easy target, his name rhymes with paedo, and he's a very tubby boy. There shouldn't be any need to bring his race or religion into it.

With Viduka, I guess calling him an "Aussie" isn't racist because "Australian" isn't a race, it's a nationality. They're the same race as us - they're white caucasians of European descent. So it's just like when Australians call us "poms", we don't go crying racism. Racism is when you mock other actual races (Africans, Orientals, Arabs) rather than a nationality.

In Mido's case, the idea that he "has a bomb" because he's Arabic counts as racism because it hints at the idea that all Arabs are terrorists. "Mido's Egyptian, that's in the middle east, so he must have a bomb then". That's what people got upset about. But I agree he should be brought to book for sticking his fingers up, if it can be proved he did that before any racial provocation took place.